Apparently AI can make art now. I am honestly not pleased about this, because art is so hard to make! The poeple who like technology try to get involved with what we love so that they can do whatever they want. This will be very bad for people who do product designs, book covers ect. Because when this intelligence becomes more widespread and available, people are going to obviously go with the faster, cheaper choice. Anyway, what are y'alls thoughts on this.
Thoughts on AI art?
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Calling oneself an artist, AI or otherwise doesn't make you an artist no more than does putting a bandaid onto a small cut make you a medical doctor.
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AI has quality…
Good morning John.
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Morning… the dawn of a new era as well
What kind of quality? AI has the quality of being... what ?
Finally! A really good statement. I like discussion , but here, lately, we're having more of a verbal argument that has revealed mostly frustration. You're correct about the dawn . It began about 1970. By 1975, Texas Instruments began to sell the first hand held calculators. They cost $157.00, could add, subtract, multiply and divide , and had one memory function. My boss bought one. Baby , look at us now!
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Yes, they are tearful. I'll give them half a minute to dry their tears. They can next, figure out something else to get pro-active with . Try a paint brush.
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digital mixed media- traditional digital art without generative AI
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I am not really too worried about it, the market was already flooded before this AI art. Selling art online was already difficult. But I will carry on.
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I have considered many aspects of this AI conversation over a couple of weeks now--- my conclusion, for me at least, is that I must create better art than I have previously. Yes, the market is flooded with "stuff" that I feel isn't high quality. Liquid Pour Acrylics fall into that category. That's not art. It's colors mixing. AI has become similar as constructed by many wannabes. We'll just have to let the pendulum swing all the way over for a while.
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AI art is difficult, it just seems easy…
Easier for some , somewhat impossible for others.
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The right tool is necessary.
Possibly AI is our friend flooding the market with its lack of self control. This allows those who are artists to remain like rare coins --- naturally of very high value.
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A good image is always a good image…
I'm not a fan. I don't like tech on any level let alone self-creating tech. I came into this life entirely bored with and unable to enjoy the modern world. The advent of the internet just intensified my disconnect with the world. AI art will be bought and enjoyed by the billions who like their lifestyle of acquiring cheap crap. I am also a writer and there are writers who are enjoying the idea of no longer having to plot their own stories. Why call yourself a writer then? If you're just fleshing out an AI novel what's the point of that? Still therre are writers who can't wait to stop being creative, so it serves all kinds I guess.
In the visual arts world there are two types of visual artists. There are what I call technical painters/sketchers, these are people who've developed high facility with a chosen medium but despite their obvious skill with the medium their images fall flat and boring. Because they don't have imaginative ability, they can only replicate what they see. That's not to take away their skill but these kinds of visual artists do not usually acquire master level of notoriety. It's these types of creatives who overwhelmingly want AI input into their art. To come up with something they themselves are unable to.
Then there are the artist creatives. These are people who take in the world and produce an expression of it based on both observation and imaginative ability. They are the ones most people think of as artists. But they are not the ones who are creating the millions of images routinely used in mass marketing. These types of artists generally don't want AI involvement because it's the act of creating something which fulfills them. They care less about the end product than the act of producing it.
As with all things, it's extremely naive to imagine that technologies are being advanced by large corporate interests and profit driven motives to be provided for the good of humanity. That has never been the case in all of history. It's the desire to dominate, change and own a particular resource which drives these innovations. If the rest of us benefit that is a side effect, not actually the intended outcome. And that is what makes me wary of it. Too many creatives are taking the stance of....well it's not good enough yet, or it doesn't replicate what I do yet, so I'm all good with someone else being taken out by this. It is only a matter of time before it will affect you personally.
Already artists stand little chance of every stopping the theft of their work. Even blatant theft still requires you to have millions at your disposal to take down the one who stole it in legal fees. It's to the point now where if your work is stolen, too bad so sad. The way AI is currently being trained is nothing less than theft of all artists work then putting it in a blender to create works which the owners of the tech can then own and claim royalties on. If you don't see this coming you probably wouldn't see an oncoming train while standing on the tracks either. The big problem is people have been taught to accept any technology just because it's technology and therefore = progress. Progression alright, but no-one is asking whether its a progression into a future you want to live in. And that is the real problem.
I already find the world overly conformist, bland and without real expression. Millions are only to happy to hand over the act of thinking for themselves to a corporation who tells them how to decorate their kitchens, what colours their furniture should be and how they should dress. I find that utterly depressing. Social media only intensified the conformity as these same corporations are now in control of what you see in the world and how you should think, because they tell you how the herd thinks and people are only too happy to adopt those thoughts. Personally it's nauseating to watch people everywhere just fall into line because someone told them 'this is the future'. Your future maybe, not mine.
In the visual arts world there are two types of visual artists. There are what I call technical painters/sketchers, these are people who've developed high facility with a chosen medium but despite their obvious skill with the medium their images fall flat and boring. Because they don't have imaginative ability, they can only replicate what they see. That's not to take away their skill but these kinds of visual artists do not usually acquire master level of notoriety. It's these types of creatives who overwhelmingly want AI input into their art. To come up with something they themselves are unable to.
Then there are the artist creatives. These are people who take in the world and produce an expression of it based on both observation and imaginative ability. They are the ones most people think of as artists. But they are not the ones who are creating the millions of images routinely used in mass marketing. These types of artists generally don't want AI involvement because it's the act of creating something which fulfills them. They care less about the end product than the act of producing it.
As with all things, it's extremely naive to imagine that technologies are being advanced by large corporate interests and profit driven motives to be provided for the good of humanity. That has never been the case in all of history. It's the desire to dominate, change and own a particular resource which drives these innovations. If the rest of us benefit that is a side effect, not actually the intended outcome. And that is what makes me wary of it. Too many creatives are taking the stance of....well it's not good enough yet, or it doesn't replicate what I do yet, so I'm all good with someone else being taken out by this. It is only a matter of time before it will affect you personally.
Already artists stand little chance of every stopping the theft of their work. Even blatant theft still requires you to have millions at your disposal to take down the one who stole it in legal fees. It's to the point now where if your work is stolen, too bad so sad. The way AI is currently being trained is nothing less than theft of all artists work then putting it in a blender to create works which the owners of the tech can then own and claim royalties on. If you don't see this coming you probably wouldn't see an oncoming train while standing on the tracks either. The big problem is people have been taught to accept any technology just because it's technology and therefore = progress. Progression alright, but no-one is asking whether its a progression into a future you want to live in. And that is the real problem.
I already find the world overly conformist, bland and without real expression. Millions are only to happy to hand over the act of thinking for themselves to a corporation who tells them how to decorate their kitchens, what colours their furniture should be and how they should dress. I find that utterly depressing. Social media only intensified the conformity as these same corporations are now in control of what you see in the world and how you should think, because they tell you how the herd thinks and people are only too happy to adopt those thoughts. Personally it's nauseating to watch people everywhere just fall into line because someone told them 'this is the future'. Your future maybe, not mine.
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Artists are of their time
I embrace technology…
Clara! How wonderfully harsh of you.
You have well said those descriptions of AI that I have been trying to omit from my conversations, well, almost. Thanks for speaking your mind. I concur wholeheartedly. At such time I'm not editing texts, books in new manuscript pages, I teach kids art and encourage their creative writing as a parallel used to free up their unabashed mentality. Sadly, too many of them appreciate AI. I call it Assimilated Ignorance.
We'll probably get kicked around a bit here, for AI lovers abound. Once, we all loved the pesticide DDT until we found that it inadvertently killed birds.
My only solace at this juncture in art creation is knowing that the pendulum swings in both directions. Did not hippies sort of fade away? My guess is that the AI generation will too.
Thanks for your comments and your stance on AI. Is that the Cocos flag I notice?
You have well said those descriptions of AI that I have been trying to omit from my conversations, well, almost. Thanks for speaking your mind. I concur wholeheartedly. At such time I'm not editing texts, books in new manuscript pages, I teach kids art and encourage their creative writing as a parallel used to free up their unabashed mentality. Sadly, too many of them appreciate AI. I call it Assimilated Ignorance. We'll probably get kicked around a bit here, for AI lovers abound. Once, we all loved the pesticide DDT until we found that it inadvertently killed birds.
My only solace at this juncture in art creation is knowing that the pendulum swings in both directions. Did not hippies sort of fade away? My guess is that the AI generation will too.
Thanks for your comments and your stance on AI. Is that the Cocos flag I notice?
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this is my page for AI art…
I present my philosophy as well
I present my philosophy as well
And yet, without artists and craftsmen with anachronistic skills we would have lost countless irreplacable treasures in the world. How many chippendale items of furniture would now be covered in polyurethane without people who can properly french polish and stain according to methods invented hundreds of years ago? Technology does not always improve. Many manufactured goods are produced cheaper and faster but they are arguably worse in design, aesthetics and quality of manufacture.
There are buildings standing today which we still cannot build for all our technology. Why is that? How is it a stone mason in the 1100's can build a wonderful cathedral while we can only put together concrete toilet blocks? The sagrada familia remains unfinished even though there is more wealth today in the hands of individuals than entire nations ever had access to? It must be a skill issue, because there is no lack of money in the world.
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