[patindaytona]

Hello,
I just joined today. Looks like a nice community. I'd like to get to know all of you and talk about art. My name is Patrick

 

[Erilia]

Welcome to the forum Patrick ! :laugh:

 

[just]

Yes welcome BTW your pictures aren't showing up when they are clicked on. You might want to talk to a moderator.

 

[Erilia]

Yes welcome BTW your pictures aren't showing up when they are clicked on. You might want to talk to a moderator.

Same problem here, it is too bad cause the previews look good !

 

[TerryCurley]

Welcome Patrick. We do have a really fun great community here. Everyone is positive and helping each other. I hope you enjoy the forum and stick around.

I'll see if I can find out what the problem is about your pictures not showing. I'll let you know.

 

[TerryCurley]

Well Patrick I have been trying to figure out the "Invalid Album" problem when trying to view your pictures. In the past we have had this problem when the name in the "caption" field of the picture is not overwritten when it is uploaded. I honestly thought that problem was fixed, but here it is again. Actually this time I think it might be something different. I took the liberty of typing in a test caption name to your pictures and it didn't fix the problem.

We have the greatest administrator on our forum now. Her name is @Cricket VS. I sent her a note and I'm sure she will find the problem and resolve it shortly. Probably tomorrow since today is Sunday.

Don't hold this little problem against us. This really is the best art forum around.

Your pictures are great! I love the one of the man fishing at the ocean edge. The colors are breath taking.

 

[Melody Jeoulex]

Welcome to the forum Patrick!

 

[Susan Mulno]

Welcome Patrick, nice to meet you!

 

[leighann]

Welcome :biggrin:

Hope you enjoy the forum...we are a friendly bunch. :glasses:

 

[ARTadmin]

Well Patrick I have been trying to figure out the "Invalid Album" problem when trying to view your pictures. In the past we have had this problem when the name in the "caption" field of the picture is not overwritten when it is uploaded. I honestly thought that problem was fixed, but here it is again. Actually this time I think it might be something different. I took the liberty of typing in a test caption name to your pictures and it didn't fix the problem.

We have the greatest administrator on our forum now. Her name is @Cricket VS. I sent her a note and I'm sure she will find the problem and resolve it shortly. Probably tomorrow since today is Sunday.

Don't hold this little problem against us. This really is the best art forum around.

Your pictures are great! I love the one of the man fishing at the ocean edge. The colors are breath taking.

Okay, I talked to the tech guys. It happens when no title or description is added for the images. The fix it to click on edit images from the album page (where you see all the previews) and add a title to each.

I put some temporary text there for now.

 

[Bushcraftonfire]

Welcome Patrick... Great to have you here!

 

[patindaytona]

Being Too Particular

Thanks everyone for the welcomes. I have been painting today. I don't know how to ask this question, but over 7 years now, of on and off painting (due to frustration), i still become so obsessive over details. Details meaning...example..today. I was using a script liner brush for some reeds (covering an area of about 4 inches). I did them over and over for about 2 hours, wiping them off many many times. Too many, too thick (paint strokes), too much chroma, etc). Believe me, i KNOW when a piece of a puzzle is not fititng right. But that is not the right way to paint. Or is it? Do some very good painters out there in the world do it that way too?? I'd sure like to me them. I have so much self doubt always, no matter how good it might end up because of the WAY i paint. I see and hear it again and again DON'T FIDDLE with things like that. And that just reinforced my self doubt. Are they wrong? SHould i ignore that?

 

[just]

How old are you and what are your goals with art?

 

[patindaytona]

Oops. i just sent a message again to help me wiht it. I'll go back now and try adding some text into it.

 

[TerryCurley]

Thanks everyone for the welcomes. I have been painting today. I don't know how to ask this question, but over 7 years now, of on and off painting (due to frustration), i still become so obsessive over details. Details meaning...example..today. I was using a script liner brush for some reeds (covering an area of about 4 inches). I did them over and over for about 2 hours, wiping them off many many times. Too many, too thick (paint strokes), too much chroma, etc). Believe me, i KNOW when a piece of a puzzle is not fititng right. But that is not the right way to paint. Or is it? Do some very good painters out there in the world do it that way too?? I'd sure like to me them. I have so much self doubt always, no matter how good it might end up because of the WAY i paint. I see and hear it again and again DON'T FIDDLE with things like that. And that just reinforced my self doubt. Are they wrong? SHould i ignore that?

I think you are trying to get it just the way you want it. I do that a lot if I'm having trouble with something. Scrape it off and redo it over and over and over. Usually the more we work a certain thing the worse it gets. If I get to that point then I take out the pallet knife and scape it off. I think as we build confidence there will be less and less of that. The trick is to know when to stop and the only way to know when to stop is experience. IMO I have only been painting for 15 months, so I totally understand the predicament.

 

[patindaytona]

I'm glad you understand that. I see so many videos of artists (i'm not looking at any anymore [email protected])
It's almost like a law..don't fiddle with details.
I tend to believe everything i hear anyway. I was painting a 2 inch tall guy walking down a path today. About two hours on him. I see artists do something like that in 5 min. It hurts! I feel I do everything the hard way. And the wrong way. Sure, some might say my work is good, but i still feel like i'm a surgen instead of a true artist because i'm nitpicking every tiny thing.

 

[TerryCurley]

I'm glad you understand that. I see so many videos of artists (i'm not looking at any anymore [email protected])
It's almost like a law..don't fiddle with details.
I tend to believe everything i hear anyway. I was painting a 2 inch tall guy walking down a path today. About two hours on him. I see artists do something like that in 5 min. It hurts! I feel I do everything the hard way. And the wrong way. Sure, some might say my work is good, but i still feel like i'm a surgen instead of a true artist because i'm nitpicking every tiny thing.

The easiest way to get depressed and your feelings hurt is to compare yourself or your work to someone else's. We should look at those that are better than us not expecting ourselves to be like them, but learn from what they have to teach us so we can be the best in our own style. Art is so subjective, what you like I might not like and vise-versa.

 

[patindaytona]

I used to belong to another painting forum and i asked millions of questions. (i think i complained too much too).
When i paint, i get a hangover the next day or two. It's just me. I have mental images of my painting...every little tick of the brush i did and worry worry worry about why didn't i leave it that way.
It'll never change for me.
I think i need to ahere to my own plan which i never did...to paint maybe just one painting per month or so. I need a break again.

 

[just]

Have you seen a professional counselor?

 

[FanKi]

Patrick, welcome to the forum.

You see, I really understand your situation. I may say the last... 3 years, maybe 2 and a half, I used to deal with the same stuff (Frustation, needing breaks, comparing myself with some other people, paying attention to tiny details in an obsesive wat). I was so worried about achieving perfection, that I could never get it. Cuz I was always stressed, pissed off, I couldn't deal with myself.
Then one question came to my mind... "Are you enjoying this? When did you stop enjoying what you are doing?" I figured out that I live the the last 3 years without enjoying a single day.

I don't know, maybe this is not your case. But it doesn't sound like you are enjoying it.

Don't push your self too much. It's okay to work hard, but with that kind of obsesion you are only limiting yourself. You won't be able to get the next level, to achieve what you look for, without enjoying what you are doing. All the energy you can be spending in doing something great, you are wasting it in worrying, getting stressed, obfuscating... imagine just what you will be able to do if you only focus your energy into positive things.

Dunno, sorry if I'm misunderstanding the situation, I just want to help.

PS: By the way, I think your paitings are terrific ^^