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Wingedrat
11-02-2010, 10:17 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=61057&id=100000202100265Hello!

I am a young inexperienced artist with no formal training, although I did watch Mark Kistler on PBS when I was knee high to a grass hopper and up until I grew in my adult teeth, although I don't think I'll get into art school with that kind of qualification:p. I enjoy animals, TV, food, and of course, art. I enjoy drawing and making torn paper collages... I haven't made a likeness of a person yet (they never turn out) but have done several animal 'portraits'.

If the linkey works here will be a picture of a goldfish I made in torn paper collage. So far I have given away or sold every torn paper collage I have made, so that is fun-sometimes it is good to get these things out!

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/AESkapnit/goldieoutofframe.jpg


http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5141247448/

Thanks for the read!

DLeeG
11-02-2010, 11:48 PM
Hello bat.
That fish turned out very well. The other two pics you posted don't show up. Perhaps you linked them to your account and didn't upload them to a photo sharing site like photobucket. I would like to see more of your work.

Do I detect a hint of doubt in you about your talent? We all start out as "a young inexperienced artist with no formal training". Have no doubt. You are an artist.

Welcome to the site.

Terminator9217
11-03-2010, 02:10 AM
There is no age limit in art, you are headed in the right direction, I like your fish it is a good art work , Art is about expressing yourself there is no room for self doubt, I just found out myself that I am an artist myself, although I am not as young as you, I am having fun discovering myself as an artist, you too should have fun with your art and in time you will be good at it, I like taking chances with my painting or charcoal drawings, you have to be daring for me it is the only way to find out if something will turn out to be a good piece of work, I do not have any backround in Art, but if I can do it I am sure that you can do it as well. Keep up the good work and most of all don't forget to have fun while you are at it.

Wingedrat
11-03-2010, 09:00 AM
Thanks for the encouragement!

I have been doodling since I was two and made 'murals' on the wall with crayon, my artwork just hasn't always been encouraged :D! Lately I've gotten some of my home critics to smile at my stuff, I guess they considered their wall paper artwork in it's self. Well, that was a while ago, now I enjoy collages as they are like a puzzle, but if I lose a piece no sweat! Hopefully these guys show up, I'm not good with technical stuff...

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/AESkapnit/Art/Torn%20Paper%20Collage/TornPaperPigeonbyAmandaSkapnit.jpg

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/AESkapnit/Art/Torn%20Paper%20Collage/maleandfemalecardinal.jpg

Wingedrat
11-03-2010, 09:09 AM
I somehow couldn't tackle painting so I got into collage... so yes, I do not think that I can do all thing haha. And for people, well I start out with Theodore Roosevelt and end up with an Asian looking dude! So yeah, human beings are a challenge.

DLeeG
11-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Your cardinals are talking about the snow? Great piics.


The seceret that most never learn about drawing human faces is; don't use lines. That might take some explaination.

Wingedrat
11-03-2010, 03:49 PM
My cardinals are talking trash about a blue jay that is sitting just out of view XD. Thanks for the complement.

Now about faces, you mean only shading? If so and that works I will like, cry with joy!
Thanks a ton :D

DLeeG
11-03-2010, 08:20 PM
My cardinals are talking trash about a blue jay that is sitting just out of view XD. Thanks for the complement.

Now about faces, you mean only shading? If so and that works I will like, cry with joy!
Thanks a ton :D
It is more than just shading. It is the illusion of depth and shape by contrast of shades. I would be in affect carving the picture out of a blank piece of paper. The portraits that I have posted here were drawn when I was still discovering this. I have made some that could nearly pass for photos. There are no lines and the only white would be the gleem on the eyes and teeth. By drawing this way, the pictures looked more realistic. If you look at a persons face, there are actually no lines with the exception of hair. The first pictures that I drew to this degree took six months.

DLeeG
11-03-2010, 08:21 PM
The same approach can be done on hands too.

PencilMeIn
11-03-2010, 09:26 PM
Wow, those are great! I've never seen so much detail in a collage before. I see some newsprint in there. What kind of paper are you using for the colored pieces? No formal training for me either, but have learned a lot from books and trial and error. I have an easier time with animals than I do with people, too. ;)

Wingedrat
11-04-2010, 08:04 AM
It is more than just shading. It is the illusion of depth and shape by contrast of shades. I would be in affect carving the picture out of a blank piece of paper. The portraits that I have posted here were drawn when I was still discovering this. I have made some that could nearly pass for photos. There are no lines and the only white would be the gleem on the eyes and teeth. By drawing this way, the pictures looked more realistic. If you look at a persons face, there are actually no lines with the exception of hair. The first pictures that I drew to this degree took six months.

I've heard the no white thing before but not the rest, I find this very interesting. I shall remember this next time I try at faces.

Wingedrat
11-04-2010, 08:12 AM
Wow, those are great! I've never seen so much detail in a collage before. I see some newsprint in there. What kind of paper are you using for the colored pieces? No formal training for me either, but have learned a lot from books and trial and error. I have an easier time with animals than I do with people, too. ;)

Thanks a ton :D.
I use old magazines almost exclusively in my stuff(even for the white), it's helpful to have them all have the same quality, otherwise like, part of the sky yellows and disintegrates while the other part looks brand new. Once I get something done I hate redoing it. People are mean ha!

kcortese
11-04-2010, 11:30 AM
Hi, I LOVE your collages.

You do a fantastic job and I know how time consuming it is. There are several artists in my area who specialize in this medium, and yours are just as good.

So many tiny pieces of paper, WOW!

I myself have never tried one, who knows maybe I'll take a shot at one during the winter when snowbound.

Thanks for sharing.

Karen

Wingedrat
11-04-2010, 09:34 PM
@kcortese (https://www.artistforum.com/member.php?u=42)

Hi! Thanks so much :).
Its good to know that others think I'm doing a good job on these pursuits, not just my long list of family and friends.

Yes, these guys do eat my spare time. They aren't that hard to make otherwise, just a lot of color hunting and matching. They really teach me patience. I would encourage anyone to take them up as a hobby.

Winter is the best time to create, I think. Summer you bottle up inspiration and in winter you pour it out. Long nights also help for me, I am an owl by nature 8).

Goodluck :D

PencilMeIn
11-11-2010, 08:42 AM
Summer you bottle up inspiration and in winter you pour it out.

I love how you put that! :)

Terminator9217
11-11-2010, 12:44 PM
That is very nice, I have to admit I do not know how to do collage at all, but that is interesting how you did that, very artistic of you. I have drawn as well as painted in oil, portraits, I paint and draw wild life as well, but I still do not know how to post anything on this site, sorry.

kcortese
11-11-2010, 05:37 PM
When you are posting a topic, click on Manage Attachments at the bottom of the screen, and you can either enter a URL or upload from your computer. If it's a pic, make sure the size is correct. Check the size from the list in the pop-up box. Edit the picture in your photo software to re-size and save somplace on your computer for uploading.



Hope this helps.

Wingedrat
11-14-2010, 04:11 PM
I love how you put that! :)

Awe shucks:o!

That is very nice, I have to admit I do not know how to do collage at all, but that is interesting how you did that, very artistic of you. I have drawn as well as painted in oil, portraits, I paint and draw wild life as well, but I still do not know how to post anything on this site, sorry.

I draw a sketch and tear out pieces of paper(from magazines) and stick them to the sketch with regular white glue. I work out the shading and colors as I go. For small pieces I use tweezers and toothpicks to 'grab' the pieces and smooth them on the paper. I bet there are tutorials on the web that explain the process better than I do, I am still learning myself. As for pictures I just upload stuff onto photobucket and paste the IMG links into my postings. I'm not good at computer talk so maybe kcortese (https://www.artistforum.com/member.php?u=42) 's advice would be more helpful to you;).