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: Need Advice in Creating Bronze Sculpture - Bird Feet


hepburnman
11-11-2018, 05:24 PM
Hi- I would like to recreate these bird feet and need advice as to how to go about creating a sculpture of them and casting them in bronze. I am wondering how to create the texture and if using wax and the lost wax process is the best way to go. I thought of using blue wax wire (which is all I see available) and whether or not it would be too soft to sculpt/add sufficient texture. The leg thickness is about 5/16" dia.

Advice of what to use and what method to sculpt and cast is appreciated.

Thanks! Mario

yarnart
11-13-2018, 11:07 AM
I think, if you will use bronze for the stuff, then the best if you use a copper wire "skeleton" for the wax. On another hand, how I see from this picture, these originally were created with sandbox molding, and then probably the original pozitive was made from sculpturing clay (also with some wire skeleton).

hepburnman
11-14-2018, 08:29 AM
Hi yarnart- Thanks for the reply. A mold based on a clay sculpture (with a wire armature) will require some additional research on my part as to how to produce. A mold based on a wax sculpture was easier for me to contemplate!

Any tips of how to create a mold from a clay sculpture is much appreciated!

Thanks- Mario

yarnart
11-14-2018, 09:26 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_casting


https://www.reliance-foundry.com/castings/sand-casting#gref




But you can search on it yorself better. :-)

hepburnman
11-14-2018, 11:16 AM
If starting with a clay sculpture, would the next step be to create a wax positive of this, or rather use the clay sculpture to make an impression in a sand mold? Can the clay sculpture be heated to make it harder and stiffer before making the sand impression?

The bird feet sculpture is like a tree with 4 branches. These branches may not be very stiff. I have also thought about making a rubber mold but how to cut the parting line for the two halves of the mold seems like it would be difficult to do due to these "branches".

yarnart
11-14-2018, 12:00 PM
No. solid objects, like dried clay, molding directly into the sand. Then the object have to be removed and the the cand mold can be used directly.

hepburnman
11-14-2018, 12:49 PM
Hi yarnart- I just dont see how a sculpture like a "tree" can be sand-casted if the idea is to do this with one mold. If it were flat, like say a medallion, then I could see making a sand-mold of this. But to cast a bird's foot and leg I would think that this would require at least 2 molds to cast; one for the foot, which is relatively flat, and the other to cast the leg. These separate castings would then have to welded together.

Is there another way to make a single sand mold cast of a bird's foot?

yarnart
11-14-2018, 03:52 PM
Sand molding of this kind of object also possible, you just have to choose well where will be the seal between the 2 part of molds. :-)
Of course the wax system much easier, but also have more chance to fail. Both way have advantages and disadvantages too. Can you tell me, please, what suppose to be the final dimensions (if we talking from it like a cube) of these bird feet?

hepburnman
11-15-2018, 11:10 AM
The bird's foot would have the following dimensions:

1) Leg (from foot to top): 4", Thickness: 0.3"

2) Foot: Width (from outside to inside toe): 2.5", Length (Tip of front Toe to tip of back toe): 4"

yarnart
11-15-2018, 02:37 PM
So it's a 4*4*4 molding. Then you can use the wax methode easily (but you have to count on unsuccessfull casting) so best to make minimum 2 pairs from wax for one pair of bronze. Or you can invest to precision casting (if there is possibility near to you) and work from hard/hardening materials. With the precision casting (in optimal case) you will have a mold which can repeatedly using for cast the same legs again when ever you need new pieces or pairs.