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Andy in Germany
01-18-2016, 04:27 AM
After finally making my first realistic Acrylic painting (https://www.artistforum.com/acrylic-painting/shipyard-27577/#post167017), I was faced with the problem of making a fitting partner for it for our dining room. I prefer everyday scenes to romantic, so I'm going for a scene featuring one of the small ferries that operate between the Islands off the west coast of Scotland. I'd like it to include a post bus meeting the ferry, probably the last service of the week, on a dark evening.

I started with thumbnails and sketches from photographs:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-01-thumbs-first-thumbnails-taken-photographs-throwing-ideas-about-i-really-liked-top-left-sketch-but-ferry-too-small-draw-paint-well-40809-4233.jpg

My favourite is the top left, so I made a development of it:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-02-i-prefer-perspective-but-theres-couple-issues-firstly-van-looks-like-something-childrens-book-but-more-serious-wrong-side-road-british-scene-teetering-top-very-high-cliff-water-bottom-i-can-deal-one-mirroring-picture-but-hpoe-can-i-get-barrier-without-losing-van-behind-40817-4233.jpg

The main problem is that the bus is the wrong side of the road for the UK, but also that there is no barrier between the bus and a frankly rather dangerous drop into the sea, so I tried a couple of other ideas:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-04-more-fiddling-perspective-road-position-bus-better-bus-still-wrong-side-road-though-but-i-wanted-viewpointcloser-back-bus-40833-4233.jpg

I also wanted to try different viewpoints nearer to the van, with more details:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-05-perspective-good-lighting-improved-but-still-land-flat-would-bit-silly-sea-tidal-40841-4233.jpg

and

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-03-probably-better-image-more-keeping-my-abilites-moment-unfortunately-road-van-has-slope-down-ferry-makes-perspective-whole-lot-more-complex-40825-4233.jpg

I like these, but the quayside is too flat: on a tidal jetty it has to be a slope and it doesn't look right like this. The trouble I have is that this makes the perspectives very complex, Is there a way to fix this so it looks right?

All ideas and suggestions welcome...

Susan Mulno
01-18-2016, 08:34 AM
I think your original sketch, the one in the page with the other sketches, (upper left corner) is your best angle. Just my opinion. :biggrin:

TerryCurley
01-18-2016, 11:01 AM
You are good at drawing and I'm sure you will come up with a final version that you are satisfied to make into a painting. You are definitely on the right track.

Andy in Germany
01-20-2016, 01:12 AM
Thanks again for the kind comments...
Terry: Thanks for the encouragement. Hopefully I'll get there a bit faster than las time...
Susan: I like it too, but it would make the ferry very small and I'm not sure if I can draw/paint it very well at that size. Will have to experiment...

Susan Mulno
01-20-2016, 09:27 PM
Have you considered an angle from behind the ferry? Looking over it to the dock and truck?

Andy in Germany
12-18-2016, 02:35 AM
So... it's been a while, mainly because I started training as an occupational therapist soon after my last post, which doesn't leave a lot of time for private painting and drawing. On the other hand painting and drawing are a part of the course so I can sketch to my hearts contennt and call it 'work'.

Anyway, I think it is about time that this picture (https://www.artistforum.com/acrylic-painting/shipyard-27577/) had a partner, which means restarting the ferry design.

Have you considered an angle from behind the ferry? Looking over it to the dock and truck?

I considered this, but I'd like the story to be the post bus coming to the welcoming refuge of the ferry, and I felt this comes across better if it is from the point of view of the bus.

I'm off to make a sketch on the canvas, but one question bothers me: how do I reproduce this feel of darkness and a well lit ferry with Acrylics?

Thanks in advance...

abt2k15
12-18-2016, 02:52 AM
jo andy! deine thumbs sehen alle super nice aus. das erste wuerde ich nehmen oder die perspektive der anderen fixen.

wegen der nacht szene - ist doch im grunde recht easy. man schafft ja nur die illusion vom leuchten. hier ist ein youtube video wo zwar nen tannenbaum gemalt wird aber das prinzip mit dunkel und leuchten wird dort gezeigt :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxajRNv4Gs

she doesnt but you can even make a glow with glacing

Andy in Germany
12-18-2016, 07:37 AM
jo andy! deine thumbs sehen alle super nice aus. das erste wuerde ich nehmen oder die perspektive der anderen fixen.

wegen der nacht szene - ist doch im grunde recht easy. man schafft ja nur die illusion vom leuchten.

Thanks for that: I'll have to experiment a bit.In the meantime, I messed about digitally with the image I preferred to se if I could improve the persective:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/3-ferry-different-perspectives-48106-4233.jpg

Of the three the middle one seems a good balance, but it annoys me that I know the ramp should be steeper,

I know: artistic licence, but still.

I also can't help wonder if there should be something in the lower left corner. Maybe some clutter would help hide the flat earth look...

I also realised that in this image the bus is in fact on the correct side of the road, so maybe bringing the bus lowe in this image would be the better option:

https://www.artistforum.com/art/ferry-02-i-prefer-perspective-but-theres-couple-issues-firstly-van-looks-like-something-childrens-book-but-more-serious-wrong-side-road-british-scene-teetering-top-very-high-cliff-water-bottom-i-can-deal-one-mirroring-picture-but-hpoe-can-i-get-barrier-without-losing-van-behind-40817-4233.jpg

But I think the middle picture above would probably be a better compromise of my abilities and what I want to create.

As you can probably tell, I'm not very good at making decisions,