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: Victims of a Thousand Holy Wars


Eddieblz
05-14-2015, 10:24 PM
This is a work in progress. The source material in bringing me to tears.

chanda95
05-15-2015, 06:40 AM
Wow. That is an emotional piece. I can see how difficult it is to do it.

Eddieblz
05-15-2015, 11:33 PM
I had a co-worker that was part of the first troupes deployed to Afghanistan then to Iraq. He was not part of the National Guard troops but was part of the hard core fighters. One time he told me of an experience. his platoon was moving to a new location and entering their armored military transport when a child he said couldn't been more than 5 jumped into the transport with them holding a grenade and the child attempted to attach himself the my co-worker. His captain using only a instinctive reflex motion proceeded to pull his 45 and shot the child and kicked him out the door, my friend in the same mental state grabbed the grenade and threw it out the door he said it flew into a crowd and he pulled the door shut. They heard it go of and lots of screaming. They left and move to their next position.
He said when your out there you have no time to think about things, you just go by instinct but now that hes back here he has time to think about it all. It's eating him up. All the rest of his comrades he said are dead ether from fighting over there or have committed suicide over here. He's the last left from his group. I haven't heard from him in over a year and don't know where he's at.
I told this story not to judge, because none of us know what we would do in the same situation. I told this story to give insight to the horrors of war's. I've been around special forces, military personal all my life and have heard many terrible story's, including my fathers' and they all have nothing good to say about the whole thing.

Well here's my next installment.

Eddieblz
05-16-2015, 10:35 AM
I think so far the photo that has bothered me the most, is a photo called war crimes. Is portrayed a baby's (A child between 2 and 5) severed head at the boots of some solders. See if you can find it.
Next installment.

Eddieblz
05-16-2015, 11:24 PM
In the attack at the Boston Marathon there was a young Marathon runner who was sitting in the stands. She couldn't run this time because she was taking care of her baby but she was in training. As she was watching the runners coming in her child was sitting in front of her, the bomb was behind her. After the explosion she was screaming for her child. her child was completely unharmed but her (the mothers) legs would be damaged permanently. After several operations she had to have them amputated below the knees. Shes getting prosthetic and she will attempt run again. All she can say is that shes glad that she was in the stands instead of running because it was her body that shielded her child from the blast saving him.
Holy Wars take on many horrible forms. God is in a bitter rage at the religious leaders of this world.

Oh well here's the next installment.

TerryCurley
05-17-2015, 05:59 AM
Amazing work. Our entire history is nothing but one war after another and it will probably never change, but I still hope it does some day.

Eddieblz
05-17-2015, 09:57 AM
Amazing work. Our entire history is nothing but one war after another and it will probably never change, but I still hope it does some day.

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TerryCurley
05-17-2015, 10:48 AM
The horrible thing is that This country (the US) has been involved with every war, in the world, in some way or fashion, in the in the last century. A quoted in the bible at Revelation 13:11 "it looks like a lamb but speaks like a dragon".

This is not the forum for a political discussion so I'm going to ask we leave this statement alone and not respond. Feel free to PM whatever but we can't allow an open forum on political views or religion.

Eddieblz
05-17-2015, 11:51 AM
This is not the forum for a political discussion so I'm going to ask we leave this statement alone and not respond. Feel free to PM whatever but we can't allow an open forum on political views or religion.

Understood.

Eddieblz
05-19-2015, 01:02 AM
.......................fin

TerryCurley
05-19-2015, 08:01 AM
This is an amazing piece. It says so much.

Eddieblz
05-19-2015, 10:25 AM
Thanks so much. I'm more into creating graphic images so this was a little different for me. Though I guess this can be classified as bunch of graphic images squished together on one page.:rolleyes:

Eddieblz
05-20-2015, 04:56 AM
As spurred on by one of my colleagues. She thought I should make these changes. Since I done this digitally I have in my files all versions.
So here it is. What you think.

TerryCurley
05-20-2015, 08:08 AM
Oh how many times I wished I could go back a version or two on my oil paintings.

You know every advancement in tools makes for better and better art and I think that's the bottom line here. For the entire history of art I'm sure there were people who scoffed at other's for the newer tool being used, whether it be type of paint or projector vs freehand or grid or whatever, saying it's not real art because it wasn't done the old fashion way. I think digital art is fantastic and I hope to get into it someday, but right now I'm having too much fun with oil.

Eddieblz
05-20-2015, 08:36 AM
I agree. I resisted it myself until about two years ago. The only problem is that I don't feel as honest about digital as I did with traditional. Not that it isn't as much work because with this on I had to prepare each picture separate turn them into brushes then stamp them into place. In traditional art as you know when a mistake is made we have to work around that mistake to make it work in the piece. in digital if mistake is made just hit undo and and redo. It just feels like cheating.

TerryCurley
05-20-2015, 08:46 AM
That guilt stuff sucks. People really don't care how it's done just how it looks and the feel of it. I know all about that guilt stuff. Many, of my pictures are first drawn on canvas and most often it's from tracing a photo of the subject, especially if it is a portrait. Whenever anyone asked me if I drew it freehand I cringe because I'm afraid of the repercussions and being accused of being a phony. I always tell the truth and face the consequences which usually are none and often supportive, but the guilt never stops, so stupid that we feel that way.

chanda95
05-20-2015, 08:51 AM
This is an amazing piece. It says so much.

I agree. Very well done!

Eddieblz
05-20-2015, 09:49 AM
I'm going to date myself a little here. I came out of the old graphic houses. Off set printers, plate burners, stat cameras and linotype machines. I used a light table in those days my pit pens and pencils at the top a good set repidograph pens, (Faber Castell with Higgins Black Indian ink) brushes and ink pallets. No computers here. We used to take photographs and blow them up to size with the stat cameras then tape them down to the desks, Put our coated drawing paper over and do allot of tracing. So I see no problem with what you do. I guess it's what ever it takes to get the job done. Your right we need not feel guilty. I bet if Leonardo Da Vinci would have been able to get his hands on today's tech he would not have felt guilty using it. What I wouldn't have given to have and apple in those days.

TerryCurley
05-20-2015, 10:43 AM
I think it's easier to not feel guilty if you know you can do it on your own and are just taking a short cut to save time and effort. Michael Angelo used the first prototype of a projector but there was never any doubt that he couldn't do it without the projector. However, for me to be completely honest I have to say a lot if not most of the pictures I know I can't draw on my own. But my love is in the painting not the drawing...and the composition of the pictures. I have no aspirations to become an artist, I just want to produce the best art I can.

Bushcraftonfire
05-20-2015, 12:07 PM
Truth is Terry.. You CAN do it on your own. But as Eddie said.. you don't HAVE to. That's why I like digital.. I can draw a square.. so can you. I can draw somewhat of a circle.. so can you. But the time taken to do it is what most people think about.

If you made a grid.. and drew a simple picture I bet you would be almost perfect in your lines. How do I know? I was right where you are 4 years ago. I didn't think I could draw. I only began drawing 4 years back.. at 53 years old. Cause I was told you have to do everything freehand.. and I 'knew' I couldn't do that (of course now I know I can).

Every artist for all times has used measurement devices (even if just their thumb or drawing utensil). There is no problem using a grid or whatever other method you need. I, personally, don't even think there is a problem if you minimally "trace" (for example getting the position of an object right). There are MANY artists who use techniques like these for guides. In Plein Air artists draw tick marks on the top and side of their canvas for guides to where things go.. etc, ad infinitum!

So do what you want.. ultimately.. your art should make YOU happy! Forget everyone else. Forget what they say.. forget how they tell you that you HAVE to do it. And above all... FORGET that you aren't a real artist. I have seen your work.. and I'm here to tell you that you ARE a real artist sis.. Keep up the good work.

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PS - DO me a favor sis.. do you have a piece of graph paper? if not draw a 3X3 graph on a piece of paper (should take a minute or 2). Then draw a 3X3 circle with on the graph.. FREEHAND. Bet it turns out wonderful. Almost EVERY artist in life graphs. Remember.. everything is simply one of about 4 shapes.. Circle, Oval, Triangle, Rectangle (includes squares).. or a combination of these shapes

Eddieblz
05-21-2015, 10:08 PM
Decided to dress this one properly.

Bushcraftonfire
05-22-2015, 09:02 AM
That frame out is very appropriate for the painting! Nice job Bro

D:cool:

chanda95
05-22-2015, 11:35 AM
That frame out is very appropriate for the painting! Nice job Bro

D:cool:

agreed. Good job!