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Susan Mulno
04-15-2015, 12:03 PM
I am considering taking up painting.

Which medium would you suggest? Why?

I enjoy working inside and out so please, on a scale of 1 (least) to 10 (greatest), let me know stink values.

TerryCurley
04-15-2015, 03:08 PM
Ha Ha Ha...I love it "Stink" value.

I have only done acrylic and oil, but I'm guessing stink is even less with watercolor. Acrylic has very little stink. Oil can be stinky but it's not so much the paint (because you only use a few drops at a time) it's the cleaners and such that stink. I use Odorless Mineral Spirits for cleaning and though it does have a slight smell it isn't bad at all. I also use Walnut Oil for thinning my paints and that has no smell at all that I can detect. I do my painting only indoors and actually in the room that I sleep in.

As far as other pro and cons...I can't say anything about watercolor.. but for acrylic it dries very quickly which is both a pro and a con. Sometimes it drives me nuts how long oils take to dry but then the fast drying of acrylics can be hard to change if you want to change something on it whereas oil can be wiped off with some mineral spirits and redone for at least a day after it's applied. If you want to do blending colors blend very nicely with oil paints. Many of my paintings are both acrylic and oil.

Acrylic can be cleaned up with water, but it is very hard on brushes. It will ruin natural fiber brushes and it's best to use synthetic brushes with acrylic. I actually find it easy to keep clean brushes with oil because oil wipes off very easily on a rag. Very often I don't clean my brushes at all until the end of the days work, I just wipe them off on a paper towel when changing colors.

Susan Mulno
04-15-2015, 03:45 PM
Very helpful info, thank you.

It raises more questions though, most importantly, what are must haves to get started with each medium? You mention mineral oil and walnut oil and mineral spirits etc....this may be more involving than I originally thought.

I have never dabbled with any painting outside of those cheesey watercolor sets at any store.

TerryCurley
04-15-2015, 07:13 PM
Very helpful info, thank you.

It raises more questions though, most importantly, what are must haves to get started with each medium? You mention mineral oil and walnut oil and mineral spirits etc....this may be more involving than I originally thought.

I have never dabbled with any painting outside of those cheesey watercolor sets at any store.

I was where you are one year ago. I decided to start with acrylic. The acrylic paints are less expensive and there is no need for any medium, though after a few paintings I did get a medium to thin down the paint for certain effects. I painted only in acrylic from May through December. I was convinced this past January by the Artist Wilson Bickford to try using oil and that's what I have been using ever since. I like the feel of it, but that's just personal preference. What I often do is paint backgrounds or underpaintings with acrylic and then the main part of the picture with oil. It is perfectly safe to paint oil over acrylic, but not the other way around because that will surely peel.

Liz
04-15-2015, 11:43 PM
If smell is what bothers you I would suggest try watercolor. I gave up oil because of the "stink" and toxicity and chose watercolor instead, it's odorless and easy to clean up. And I can wear my regular clothes, not some frock to keep from getting paint stains.

I also paint with acrylics, they have a smell but it's not strong and doesn't linger (it's the same smell as acrylic wall paint). I don't use any medium with acrylics, just water. Nylon brushes work well with acrylics and clean up is easy with just soap and water.

Watercolor is the least expensive, less paint is used than painting with oil or acrylics. Soft brushes work best with watercolor.

Susan Mulno
04-16-2015, 09:07 AM
Thank you ladies. I have a lot to consider. I actually bought one of those combination kits at a local art store, it has 12 tubes of each, watercolor, acrylic and oil. I am excited to give them a try!
Anyone with advice on favorite mediums, brushes, treatment (do I spray fixative?) and storage after a painting is finished, etc...I can use all the advice I can get.

Liz
04-16-2015, 06:59 PM
No fixative for any of the paint types as far as I know. For watercolor paper get a watercolor block, it won't buckle as much. I store watercolor paintings flat.
For brushes a couple of both round and flat brushes will get you started. And last but not least, have fun!

Susan Mulno
04-17-2015, 02:56 PM
No fixative for any of the paint types as far as I know. For watercolor paper get a watercolor block, it won't buckle as much. I store watercolor paintings flat.
For brushes a couple of both round and flat brushes will get you started. And last but not least, have fun!


Thank you Liz,
This is very helpful.

As far as having fun, I am sure I will!

Susan Mulno
04-22-2015, 12:08 AM
I have been playing with my watercolor and acrylic paints, so far everything looks like a five year old got into my supplies! Oh well, I am learning and having fun!

TerryCurley
04-22-2015, 09:24 AM
I started painting only a year ago and at first nothing came out the way I wanted it to, now I'm getting better. I paint pretty much every day for hours and practice really does pay off. As you say it's all about having fun and honestly improving is all part of the fun. My biggest problem is what to do with all the pictures.

Bushcraftonfire
04-22-2015, 03:21 PM
Some excellent advice here... Only thing I can add is..

Be careful when buying sets. In other words.. don't make your final decision on if you like a medium or not with what you bought. The reason I say this is (and I am mainly speaking for watercolor now since that is the medium I use.. but it is equally valid for the other mediums as well) is that the quality of the paints greatly varies. You can buy watercolor paints for $1.00 at the local Dollar Store.. or you can spend $8-10 / tube (or more) at a specialty store. The color, application, longevity, texture, etc will not be the same.

So use what you have to find what is comfortable to you and suits your taste.. But don't necessarily look at the quality of the finished works and say "This medium will never do for me"

Just My Opinion
D

Susan Mulno
04-23-2015, 06:04 PM
Some excellent advice here... Only thing I can add is..

Be careful when buying sets. In other words.. don't make your final decision on if you like a medium or not with what you bought. The reason I say this is (and I am mainly speaking for watercolor now since that is the medium I use.. but it is equally valid for the other mediums as well) is that the quality of the paints greatly varies. You can buy watercolor paints for $1.00 at the local Dollar Store.. or you can spend $8-10 / tube (or more) at a specialty store. The color, application, longevity, texture, etc will not be the same.

So use what you have to find what is comfortable to you and suits your taste.. But don't necessarily look at the quality of the finished works and say "This medium will never do for me"

Just My Opinion
D

A valid opinion it is!

When I purchase anything I go for middle ground, if I were selling my stuff I am sure that would change. The set I found is a great tryout. I am learning that I really like watercolor and acrylic, it will be a tough choice but I don't need to make it until I need to restock. I am realizing oil paints won't work so well with my RV lifestyle. (Kind of afraid to start playing with them because, knowing me, I would like the most impracticable the best!)

Melody Jeoulex
04-30-2015, 06:16 PM
Thanks also for some good information about painting for starters...I've used poster paints back in high school in making a landscape background for our class play..good thing the background turned out good 'cause we were in such a hurry for everything...and so today, my mother wants me to paint a flower on a canvas ..and a beach scenery that has the sunset look...still not starting it 'cause I want to earn the supplies I'm going to use..I'm still not sure if acrylic or oil...I'm also scared 'cause there's no 'UNDO' in life if ever I make a mistake....so uhm..can I do painting trials on papers first?

Susan Mulno
04-30-2015, 08:32 PM
Thanks also for some good information about painting for starters...I've used poster paints back in high school in making a landscape background for our class play..good thing the background turned out good 'cause we were in such a hurry for everything...and so today, my mother wants me to paint a flower on a canvas ..and a beach scenery that has the sunset look...still not starting it 'cause I want to earn the supplies I'm going to use..I'm still not sure if acrylic or oil...I'm also scared 'cause there's no 'UNDO' in life if ever I make a mistake....so uhm..can I do painting trials on papers first?

So far, I am liking the boldness and coverage of acrylic, but the watercolors don't dry out as quickly which I prefer, (I am talking middle ground tubes).

You can buy small pads of watercolor paper fairly inexpensively for your test paintings which are always a good idea.

Good luck and let us see how it comes out. :)

Melody Jeoulex
04-30-2015, 10:28 PM
[email protected][email protected] never knew there would be such papers for watercolors..but avast! I shall do it for such challenge..I will be posting my trial and error with acrylic or oil works here and seek for advice from professionals..:D

Bushcraftonfire
05-08-2015, 09:48 PM
So far, I am liking the boldness and coverage of acrylic, but the watercolors don't dry out as quickly which I prefer, (I am talking middle ground tubes).

Do you mean that you prefer the paint not to dry as quickly Susan? Or do you mean that you prefer the paint not to dry out in the tubes? Or do you mean that you want the paint to dry more quickly?

I use a hairdryer to dry my waters between each layer.. and it only takes a moment or two.. And as for the paint drying tube wise.. I actually put my waters in a palette.. and purposely dry them. This makes them easier to use in my experience.. and you can use as much (or as little) as you like with each application (Thus not wasting resources).

D:cool:

Susan Mulno
05-08-2015, 10:51 PM
That isn't very clear is it? What I meant was the acrylics dry out in a palette too quickly for me. If watercolor dries it is easy enough to re-vitalize, acrylics not so much. (unless of course, there is a trick to bring dry acrylics back to life?)

leighann
05-10-2015, 12:14 AM
I'm new, so not even sure if I'm doing this right. As for painting...I love watercolors, and even using watercolor pencils. I plan to try acrylics, but doubt I will advance to oils. I still have a lot to learn about watercolors! 😁

Susan Mulno
05-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Welcome Leighann, you did fine, thanks for the input. :)