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10-02-2015 12:48 PM
Susan Mulno
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Originally Posted by Rathac View Post
La paix est la mort. Embrassez conflit.

When I view the opinions of others as tools I can use for my own benefit and betterment, instead of viewing them as judgment, it becomes easier to accept criticism of all sorts--even when it comes in demeaning or distasteful ways.
Well said!
10-02-2015 09:32 AM
Rathac La paix est la mort. Embrassez conflit.

When I view the opinions of others as tools I can use for my own benefit and betterment, instead of viewing them as judgment, it becomes easier to accept criticism of all sorts--even when it comes in demeaning or distasteful ways.
08-26-2015 06:51 PM
Asancta
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Originally Posted by Eddieblz View Post
Back in the early 90's when I walked away from the art business. It was a different world then. If a person wanted to look at artwork you could 1 go to the library or book stores and get books, that would only expose you to the masters. 2 go to college or fair art shows and exhibitions but they were far and few between 3 you could go to galleries and museums and there was also magazines. The art community was a pretty closed community. It seemed mysterious and distant. Most people didn't know where to look even if they wanted to view art When I started to get back involved with art about 3 years ago the internet opened a whole new world of art sharing. It was wonderful. I've had a chance to discus art with artists all over the world and I didn't have to travel to do it.
Now in the old days if you wanted to learn art and didn't trust enough in your own talent you had to go to school. It was the only place to get instruction, techniques, source material a nude model. The only other place for that was a porn magazine or a nudest colony, I wasn't ready for that.
Now there is again the internet, with it's wealth of knowledge and source material. It's absolutely amazing. For those of you that this is all you've known. Don't take it for granted, Embrace it, use it.
Now as for the value. Priceless. As far as critiques go. I'll discuss that in my next post.
I subscribe to what you just said.Back in the days if you were not going to an art school then at least you would try to be the student of an artist(IF he would accept you).Was very hard and this world was exclusive for a "special" caste.Nowdays everything is open and you learn more from the internet rather than from a school(why?simply because on the internet it's not only one particular school-Russian 4 ex-but 100 of them from all over the world and you as a student can get better and better being far more easy today to make your own style.
08-26-2015 06:35 PM
TerryCurley Very well said Eddie. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on critiquing.



08-26-2015 06:25 PM
Eddieblz Back in the early 90's when I walked away from the art business. It was a different world then. If a person wanted to look at artwork you could 1 go to the library or book stores and get books, that would only expose you to the masters. 2 go to college or fair art shows and exhibitions but they were far and few between 3 you could go to galleries and museums and there was also magazines. The art community was a pretty closed community. It seemed mysterious and distant. Most people didn't know where to look even if they wanted to view art When I started to get back involved with art about 3 years ago the internet opened a whole new world of art sharing. It was wonderful. I've had a chance to discus art with artists all over the world and I didn't have to travel to do it.
Now in the old days if you wanted to learn art and didn't trust enough in your own talent you had to go to school. It was the only place to get instruction, techniques, source material a nude model. The only other place for that was a porn magazine or a nudest colony, I wasn't ready for that.
Now there is again the internet, with it's wealth of knowledge and source material. It's absolutely amazing. For those of you that this is all you've known. Don't take it for granted, Embrace it, use it.
Now as for the value. Priceless. As far as critiques go. I'll discuss that in my next post.
08-26-2015 07:03 AM
TerryCurley
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Originally Posted by leighann View Post
Here's my thoughts....I consider myself a novice at sketches and Mandalas. Definitely an amateur at the other mediums I've experimented with. I don't really feel I'm qualified to critique anyone....and don't mind being critiqued myself.

I love praise...don't we all!! I do think you can like/enjoy a piece of art, but also find flaws in it, or things you might have done differently.

I have also posted art on FB, and recently created a page exclusively for my art. Prior to the new page, I did notice a trend to the "likes", but I take it in stride. I'm creating for ME, not everyone else.
The good thing about FB is that you are dealing with people who just either like your work or don't. They are not analyzing the technical aspect of it, which is something that is good for this forum because it helps me improve but it isn't everything. I will post on FB and then check how many 'likes' I get. Less than 10 I know the picture sucks, more than 20 it's one of my best.

The extra busy picture I did last week with the yellow roses was technically an abomination. However it was very well received on FB. Which tells me it has appeal above the technical flaws. This is good to know. So I think feedback in different environments is important.



08-25-2015 10:19 PM
FanKi
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Originally Posted by just View Post
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Originally Posted by TerryCurley
...your friends on facebook are going to say it's wonderful even if it isn't. That is not helpful.
That is what happens here too.
Sorry Just, that's what I understood.
What you were talking about?
08-25-2015 07:47 PM
leighann Here's my thoughts....I consider myself a novice at sketches and Mandalas. Definitely an amateur at the other mediums I've experimented with. I don't really feel I'm qualified to critique anyone....and don't mind being critiqued myself.

I love praise...don't we all!! I do think you can like/enjoy a piece of art, but also find flaws in it, or things you might have done differently.

I have also posted art on FB, and recently created a page exclusively for my art. Prior to the new page, I did notice a trend to the "likes", but I take it in stride. I'm creating for ME, not everyone else.
08-25-2015 07:28 PM
just
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Originally Posted by FanKi View Post
I disagree with you Just.
You can't judge everyone with the same criteria.
I never said that Frank.
08-25-2015 07:20 PM
FanKi I disagree with you Just.
You can't judge everyone with the same criteria.

If you are a newbie, you know your work is not the best on earth, but is usless to hear it from others. What do you want us to say if we see someone recently started (Maybe as me)? "This is crap. The outlines are wrong. Bad proportions. You should change your shadowing technique cuz it doesn't work good."? Sorry if I'm incorrect, but that's not the way to teach, and even worse, to learn.

Nobody need negative coments, not even a Pro. And let me say, supportive criticism is way too different from negative coments. (As for example, When I reached here I was told to leave outlines if I want to improve, at the same time I was being congratulated by the same person.)
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