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post #11 of Old 05-04-2015, 05:37 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks again. It wasn't the best reference photo but I liked the picture. The neck/shoulder needed work I think too but I thought if I'd changed the nose and angle of the muzzle it would have gave me a better base to work from and that area should have looked better. Might try that one again later as I think I can see where things went wrong & take it a bit slower with more breaks. That one took two days straight! When I get out I'll try get some different paper types to work with. My excellent hubby just bought me some mechanical pencils which I love. I'm so loving drawing again. Did another one yesterday which I'm uploading now.
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post #12 of Old 05-04-2015, 05:45 AM
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wow you are a quick drawer. That's amazing that you did it in two days. Thats great!! Waiting for your new uploads.. And wishing you the very best for your future work!!
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These are very nice. You should be very proud as what you have drawn is a complex picture and you handled it nicely.

The two things I would suggest is to (1) pay attention to proportion. Your mama wolf appears to have very long nose and very small ears. I actually think the bulk of the long nose problem is due to the small ears. Making the ears larger will take care of that. (2) Try not to outline. For realistic drawings you will not see distinct outlines. The most visible ones I see are around the mouths of the pup and the top of the nose on the mama. Let your shading do the work for you.



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OK I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about the "How to's of Art" but I can tell you what I do for whatever it's worth. I do outline all my subjects in a picture, but then when painting I try to cover-up the lines and blend them into the natural way of things. That's the reason I stopped using carbon and graphite -- painting over those lines are practically impossible. If I didn't outline I couldn't paint it at all, it's like a road map for me. Perhaps that same sort of technique could be applied to other things like your pastels or graphite. Blend out the lines of the outline when building up the picture.



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OK I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about the "How to's of Art" but I can tell you what I do for whatever it's worth. I do outline all my subjects in a picture, but then when painting I try to cover-up the lines and blend them into the natural way of things. That's the reason I stopped using carbon and graphite -- painting over those lines are practically impossible. If I didn't outline I couldn't paint it at all, it's like a road map for me. Perhaps that same sort of technique could be applied to other things like your pastels or graphite. Blend out the lines of the outline when building up the picture.
Most of us do outline Terry - in the initial sketch - but what I am saying is your finished drawing should not show those outlines if you want a realistic effect. Making your shadows work for you is how you eliminate the outlines but you need to ensure your outlines are light..NOT hard pressed or you will never get rid of them.



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You know, I never even noticed the lines until you pointed them out! I know the big wolf head was composed wrong when I got to shading that part, I'll change that if I get round to re-drawing that one. My husband asked me if it was a fox?! lol The pups were hard being so small but don't know why I didn't notice that I had solid outlines around the mouth and noses. Thanks. I'll have to pay more attention. I do try to draw very light base lines and work over them. My husband's starting working with acrylics and drawing the lines first then painting over them. Everyone has different ways of doing things but it's finding what works for you that's the hard part. I've done the same for pastels but have to be careful the lines are light. Two days for a drawing is quiet long for me but if I learn to take more time maybe things would work out better and I'd notice silly mistakes
Saying that my second drawings up on the boards already for anyone interested. Alsatian Dog.
Thanks for the input and comments, always appreciated.
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Strathmore 400 series will do you nicely.. Some very nice works you have here Jaz.. Keep up the good work!

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