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post #1 of Old 11-18-2015, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
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How to draw accurately without erasing?

I can't seem to draw as well with colored pencils as I did with graphite. Apparently I rely heavily on the ability to erase. If I draw the outlines in graphite, they show. Help Mr. Wizard!

Last nights totally out of proportion drawing of a cup.
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This is nice, kind of Picasso-esk.

You actually have a nice grip on colors.

The key to starting your drawing is don't use graphite. Use one of your color pencils , lightly. Choose one that will blend with the body of your work, again, lightly.

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What I do is the outlines in pencil first. I get the shapes and proportions I want..done lightly in graphite and THEN I got back in and do the fill in work with colored pencil.
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This is nice, kind of Picasso-esk.

You actually have a nice grip on colors.

The key to starting your drawing is don't use graphite. Use one of your color pencils , lightly. Choose one that will blend with the body of your work, again, lightly.
You're too kind! Picasso isn't what I'm going for but, I'll take that.
I think I need to avoid drawing white things on white paper. It seems to lead me to outlining too much. There aren't any colors that will be hidden in a white cup.
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What I do is the outlines in pencil first. I get the shapes and proportions I want..done lightly in graphite and THEN I got back in and do the fill in work with colored pencil.
Is it possible with a white on white drawing. If so can you show me a little tutorial? The lip of the cup seems impossible. I added the shading there but it really didn't belong there.
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You're too kind! Picasso isn't what I'm going for but, I'll take that.
I think I need to avoid drawing white things on white paper. It seems to lead me to outlining too much. There aren't any colors that will be hidden in a white cup.
Actually a very pale blue-gray will disappear into your shading. You can erase pale color pencil, once you darken it you're stuck.

You are doing the best thing you can and that is keep drawing, anything and everything. With practice you will learn what works and what doesn't.

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Thanks Susan. I'll give pale blue-gray a try.
I also think that I should probably use a grid method or tracing to get the proportions correct. I don't seem to have an eye for it. Oh well, I'll keep drawing.
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Alyona Nickelson has a book that demonstrates how to draw white objects on a white background, the exercise in her book "The Colored Pencil Painting Bible" is called "The Color of White". Mainly the gist is that objects are not made up only of the local color (meaning a white cup has more colors than white because it reflects the objects and shadows around them). She has a video demo of this in her brushedpencil.com site but I think you have to be a member to view it. Colored Pencil Student magazine also used it for a demo in one of its issues.

She does have a short video demo on youtube showing how she draws a brass pitcher. It is an ad for her book and online school so the details of what she does are glossed over but the concepts are the same you would use to draw the white cup. Look at the number of colored pencils she uses to draw the yellow brass. Of course the brass is more reflective than your cup would be but the concept is exactly the same.

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Actually, I just looked in her book and I got it backward, the brass pitcher is in her book and the color of white is in the magazine.

http://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/633910

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I like the raw lacking of proportion. Kindof fun. Let me know if you want to learn some tricks for getting it "true" to actual.
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