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post #1 of Old 08-31-2016, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
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Art Lessons vs Online/Self Taught

Hello people of Artist Forum!
I've been drawing and sketching for as long as i can remember myself (i'm 22).For me it is a way to express my feelings and get happy!
Lately i felt that i needed to improve my skills so i tried to make a small research.The choices are two.Either go to an art school (not higher education but lessons for adults) or find tutorials online.
I contacted some art schools nearby and more or less they provide: 3-5 hour lessons once a week, freedom to use the workshop as much as i want and of course answers to all my questions.The price range is 50-85€ (55-95 USD) /month.

Since i have no experiece i would feel better reading about other opinions..
can i develop my skills at the same rate without attending the art school? are there enough trustworthy sources online? will i be able to learn the fundamentals alone?
i think you can get an idea of what i want to find out.If not, please ask!

*I can upload one of my sketches if it helps

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Hello, welcome to the forum!

I have asked myself this question and the most honest answer is; How much drive do you have to learn? (I know, that's a question!)

I have decided I need an instructor for the simple reason of my laziness. I can give myself assignments, but that does not mean I will follow through. If I am given assignments by an instructor, I must produce if I wish to keep my lessons going.

For an all too brief time here we were doing art challenges, I loved it! Because I also lack imagination when challenging myself. I think of a project for myself and consider it too challenging I tell myself, "never mind", if someone else raises the challenge I try harder.

Did this help? Or am I rambling?

Okay, I can do this,....I am an,....arrr, ....arrr,.....artist!

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Welcome Ginko I think susan has a very valid point with the motivation to create, if you don't struggle with motivation you could do free courses online using youtube there are hundreds of video playlists in all mediums on there for you to watch, learn from & get inspired, whats your medium?

@Susan maybe we could ask for the art challenges to be bought back I enjoyed them too!!
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@Susan Mulno
Every opinion is helpful!
It's a great way to drive yourself.My opinion is that without something to drive you off your limits you're stationary, no progress.Honestly, i am afraid of being stationary.Not that much because of motivation issues but because i may not be able to find the ways to teach myself.The art teacher is a "book" with all the advices needed.You just have to ask.On the other hand you have to search for the advices yourself and no one can guarantee that they will be trustworthy.
So, my biggest doubt is the reliability of these sources.
If i had a positive feedback i would definately try it and after a month, judge my results (and reevaluate my decision if needed).
@meli Hmm my medium..i can't say i dislike something but i like some more than others.If i had to pick one it would be either charcoal or pencil.
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An excellent book resource is, "Drawing From the Left Side of Your Brain". It has helped me a lot when I do apply myself.
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i have read several discussions about this topic - mainly in the digital area but art is art imho. since internet is common to most of the world knowledge becomes accessible for everyone. the benefits of usually very expensive art schools are barely existant. this is coming from people who went to art school and are succesfull illustrators. while no one will say its bad - 99% of professionals will tell you that you will achieve much better results otherwhise.

basically it comes down to what you want to do. what is your goal? the only benefit from art school is that their schedules will help you create a habbit - its less likely that you will skip a days exercise since you pay money and people expect to see results but really this can also be achieved by participating online communities. make online friends - help each other etc.

if you want to earn money with art you have to put in the hrs like they say - with or without art school. when applying for a job no one cares about which school you visited. ever. if you just want to be a selling artist you either become really good or you put in the effort to make yourself interesting enough so people will acknowledge you - this can also work the way arround - instead of trying to get people looking for your art you can try to look for people you think most likely will buy your art. f.e. you have a knack for painting sailboats - so maybe join sail faires, online communities etc. that sort of things.

here is some links to good reads from "professional" ( or rather acknowledged ) artist :

http://jeremycowart.com/2014/07/art-...-or-not-to-go/

this is also very well written :

http://elitedaily.com/envision/want-...ut-art-school/

my personal opinion is that as long as its still possible ( it becomes harder every year - with content generating aka waste ppls time to get more.. dont really know how they make money of it but they do ) explore yourself. school will not make it easier. if you want to study art - look for the origin of the word "study" and you will have my answer XD

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study (v.)
early 12c., "to strive toward, devote oneself to, cultivate" (translating Latin occupatur), from Old French estudiier "to study, apply oneself, show zeal for; examine" (13c., Modern French étudier), from Medieval Latin studiare, from Latin studium "study, application," originally "eagerness," from studere "to be diligent," from PIE *(s)teu- (1) "to push, stick, knock, beat" (see steep (adj.)). The notion appears to be "pressing forward, thrusting toward," hence "strive after."
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oh i forgot to give you an example i link alot because its just that great - drawing fundamentals with daily exercises etc : www.drawabox.com
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Although my way of thinking is more like a comment on Jeremy Cowart's article
Spoiler!
(he's right on target with the economical difficulties though)
thanks to the help from all of you i decided to learn via internet tutorials for 1-2 months.After that i will try to evaluate my progress, ask other people and make a new decision from there!
Thank you all, very very much

*i've only read a small part of drawabox but everything seems carefully written and the lessons are on a great level!
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Not sure it has to be a choice or that one is better than the other as every opportunity to learn should be taken. If you have an hour to spare and can open this link, this lesson shows the best of both and is very useful and informative...It's watercolour line and wash but the thought process can apply to most mediums. A sensible and talented lady willing to share her experience...

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*I can upload one of my sketches if it helps
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